Comments on: My Secret Shame: I Like 90’s Comics (Part Three) http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/ The Blog@ Team and prominent comics personalities share what’s on their minds. Sat, 25 May 2013 03:49:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Aron Head http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-226221 Aron Head Sun, 02 Dec 2007 13:33:39 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/#comment-226221 Not at all, Jason! I'm totally on board with that. An Essentials collection is the way to go...! Not at all, Jason! I’m totally on board with that. An Essentials collection is the way to go…!

]]> By: Jason McNamara http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-225975 Jason McNamara Sun, 02 Dec 2007 04:20:29 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/#comment-225975 It's interesting how Gwen "matured" after dying. During the clone saga the gwen stacy clone was living in New Jersey with a Miles Warren clone. Then the "real" Gwen knocked boots with Norman Osborne. Which officially makes her the biggest Spidey villian chaser since Aunt May (and you know Aunt May would never let Doc Ock close the deal). "Seperate beds Otto." As for the little girl in One More Day, I think its a possible version of the baby the Parkers lost. The same way Mephisto is showing Peter alternate and older versions of himself, he's also showing Peter the cutest version of his daughter. Which will hurt Peter all the more when he loses her again. I think with the benifit of hindsight another Clone story could be done and done well. Kaine and the Gwen clone are still around somewhere. The Jackal could easily be resurrected. He's a great villian that needs to be saved from the damaged goods department by a kick ass story. Throw in the Punisher, who first appeared alongside the Jackal in the original clone saga, and you've got my money. Marvel could do an Essential Clone saga to coincide with the new story. Seems like a money printing operation to me. am I alone? It’s interesting how Gwen “matured” after dying. During the clone saga the gwen stacy clone was living in New Jersey with a Miles Warren clone. Then the “real” Gwen knocked boots with Norman Osborne. Which officially makes her the biggest Spidey villian chaser since Aunt May (and you know Aunt May would never let Doc Ock close the deal).

“Seperate beds Otto.”

As for the little girl in One More Day, I think its a possible version of the baby the Parkers lost. The same way Mephisto is showing Peter alternate and older versions of himself, he’s also showing Peter the cutest version of his daughter. Which will hurt Peter all the more when he loses her again.

I think with the benifit of hindsight another Clone story could be done and done well. Kaine and the Gwen clone are still around somewhere. The Jackal could easily be resurrected. He’s a great villian that needs to be saved from the damaged goods department by a kick ass story. Throw in the Punisher, who first appeared alongside the Jackal in the original clone saga, and you’ve got my money. Marvel could do an Essential Clone saga to coincide with the new story. Seems like a money printing operation to me. am I alone?

]]> By: Bishop http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-225892 Bishop Sat, 01 Dec 2007 21:24:38 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/#comment-225892 I hate that the online community treat the 90's like the Dark Ages of comicdom. If it wasn't for my love of comics in the 90's, I don't think I'd be here reading them today. There will always be good comics and bad comics. I loved everything about Ben Reilly, except for the fact that there might have been a chance that he was the genuine Pete Parker. The man invented impact webbing, two of the finest set of threads in Spidey comic history and I never doubted for a second that he was every bit as good at the job as Pete. It's cool that his costume lived on in the pages of Spider-Girl. On a sidenote, I don't understand how developments like the Stacy/Osborn twins are supposed to be accepted, but the 616 version of Baby May Parker has to retconned. I hate that the online community treat the 90′s like the Dark Ages of comicdom. If it wasn’t for my love of comics in the 90′s, I don’t think I’d be here reading them today. There will always be good comics and bad comics.

I loved everything about Ben Reilly, except for the fact that there might have been a chance that he was the genuine Pete Parker. The man invented impact webbing, two of the finest set of threads in Spidey comic history and I never doubted for a second that he was every bit as good at the job as Pete. It’s cool that his costume lived on in the pages of Spider-Girl. On a sidenote, I don’t understand how developments like the Stacy/Osborn twins are supposed to be accepted, but the 616 version of Baby May Parker has to retconned.

]]> By: Jason "CodeGuy" Bryant http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-225788 Jason "CodeGuy" Bryant Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:41:57 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/#comment-225788 Within the Marvel Universe, hasn't it only been about 3 years since the Parker baby was born? If it's only been 15 years since the FF were irradiated and Spidey first put on his mask, then the Spider-baby can't be much more than 3. Within the Marvel Universe, hasn’t it only been about 3 years since the Parker baby was born? If it’s only been 15 years since the FF were irradiated and Spidey first put on his mask, then the Spider-baby can’t be much more than 3.

]]> By: Jason McNamara http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-225494 Jason McNamara Sat, 01 Dec 2007 00:55:19 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/#comment-225494 As for the Parker baby, I'm pretty sure that was her in this weeks Sensational Spider-Man. As for the Parker baby, I’m pretty sure that was her in this weeks Sensational Spider-Man.

]]> By: Apodaca http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-225479 Apodaca Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:59:58 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/#comment-225479 The Clone Saga is the opposite of fun. It's convoluted, slow, and overwrought. The Clone Saga is the opposite of fun. It’s convoluted, slow, and overwrought.

]]> By: RosiePerez http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-225427 RosiePerez Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:46:37 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/#comment-225427 No, no. They're not repeating history. It's totally not the same. See, instead of a long-lost clone, there's maybe gonna be some kind of retroactive spell/Superboy Punch! that will mean Spider-Man was never married. See? See how much better it is? No, no. They’re not repeating history. It’s totally not the same. See, instead of a long-lost clone, there’s maybe gonna be some kind of retroactive spell/Superboy Punch! that will mean Spider-Man was never married.

See? See how much better it is?

]]> By: Zeitgeist http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-225421 Zeitgeist Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:32:20 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/#comment-225421 There is nothing to be ashamed about, Scarlet Spider Is one of the best Superhero costumes made :) There is nothing to be ashamed about, Scarlet Spider Is one of the best Superhero costumes made :)

]]> By: Martin http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-225391 Martin Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:19:27 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/#comment-225391 What Jason said. As long as the storyline played with Ben as the clone trying to find his way in the world and Peter threatened by the return of a version of him that wasn't cynical and bitter, it worked wonderfully. When they claimed Ben was the real Spidey and Peter the clone, it was transparently an effort to reboot Spidey as the swinging single non-married dude--stop me if this sounds familiar to you. And coincidentally, that's right when the storyline went completely off the rails. I liked a lot of the Clone Saga and am not ashamed to admit it. If they'd kept Ben as the Scarlet Spider and given him his own title, they could've satisfied every camp of Spider-fans easily. What amazes me in viewing "One More Day" is how little Quesada, JMS, etc. actually learned from the failures of the Clone Saga, and how they seem dead-set on repeating history. What Jason said. As long as the storyline played with Ben as the clone trying to find his way in the world and Peter threatened by the return of a version of him that wasn’t cynical and bitter, it worked wonderfully.

When they claimed Ben was the real Spidey and Peter the clone, it was transparently an effort to reboot Spidey as the swinging single non-married dude–stop me if this sounds familiar to you. And coincidentally, that’s right when the storyline went completely off the rails.

I liked a lot of the Clone Saga and am not ashamed to admit it. If they’d kept Ben as the Scarlet Spider and given him his own title, they could’ve satisfied every camp of Spider-fans easily.

What amazes me in viewing “One More Day” is how little Quesada, JMS, etc. actually learned from the failures of the Clone Saga, and how they seem dead-set on repeating history.

]]> By: Jason "CodeGuy" Bryant http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-225370 Jason "CodeGuy" Bryant Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:05:47 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/#comment-225370 Too long and convoluted is right. I liked it right up the the point that they said Ben Reilly was the real Peter Parker. I liked him as the Scarlet Spider. I thought he was a neat character. Playing switcheroo and having Peter lose his powers and give up being Spidey... ug. Too long and convoluted is right. I liked it right up the the point that they said Ben Reilly was the real Peter Parker. I liked him as the Scarlet Spider. I thought he was a neat character. Playing switcheroo and having Peter lose his powers and give up being Spidey… ug.

]]> By: Laura http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-225354 Laura Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:39:34 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/#comment-225354 I think the Clone Saga went on too long, and got way too convoluted, but I do think there were some really good things going on too. I loved Ben Reilly. I loved Mary Jane dealing with the pregnancy. I loved Aunt May telling revealing to Peter that she knew he was Spider-Man, and her subsequent death. I thought that was all handled much better than what JMS did. I even liked the Scarlet Spider costume. I think the Clone Saga went on too long, and got way too convoluted, but I do think there were some really good things going on too. I loved Ben Reilly. I loved Mary Jane dealing with the pregnancy. I loved Aunt May telling revealing to Peter that she knew he was Spider-Man, and her subsequent death. I thought that was all handled much better than what JMS did. I even liked the Scarlet Spider costume.

]]> By: James http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-225341 James Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:00:29 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/#comment-225341 In all the fake-outs, take-backs and bullshit, didn't it turn out that Ben Reilly wasn't even the original clone? <i>A</i> clone, obviously, but not the one we saw in the 70s. In all the fake-outs, take-backs and bullshit, didn’t it turn out that Ben Reilly wasn’t even the original clone? A clone, obviously, but not the one we saw in the 70s.

]]> By: Paul http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-225335 Paul Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:51:51 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/11/30/my-secret-shame-i-like-90%e2%80%99s-comics-part-three/#comment-225335 You know, considering that the current issues of Avengers: The Initiative are heavy with Iron Spidey Clones, it seems like Marvel will forever be intrigued with the idea of someone else under the Spider-mask. Regardless, I agree. Even if, upon retrospection, the clone saga may not be as fun as I remember it, I would pick up a big old paperback collection of it in a heartbeat. You know, considering that the current issues of Avengers: The Initiative are heavy with Iron Spidey Clones, it seems like Marvel will forever be intrigued with the idea of someone else under the Spider-mask. Regardless, I agree. Even if, upon retrospection, the clone saga may not be as fun as I remember it, I would pick up a big old paperback collection of it in a heartbeat.

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