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Variations on a Theme…

September 29th, 2007
Author Melissa Krause

Last week, this column covered some reactions to the Black Canary/Green Arrow wedding. Usually I’m not one to extend the same topic two weeks in a row, but there are still some interesting reactions trickling in. Especially since this interview with Judd Winick came out on Newsarama.

Sally is upset by the interview:

But the fact that Mr. Winick’s first thought was to kill off Black Canary just repulses me. It is so wrong. And needless. And stupid. It’s BAD WRITING! And I hate bad writing. So I guess that I’ve just joined the ranks of the “I hate Judd Winick” club. From what I gather, it has a LOT of members.

Shelly, who you may remember from her positive review last week, is annoyed by the interview:

On the face of it, it’s pro-Dinah. It makes it sound as if he wanted to use her, the female character, to move things forward, rather than the guy. That should be a good thing. But his execution, the way Ollie dies, hinders rather than helps the cause. Losing Ollie was one thing; killing him and doing it the way she did, is quite another. If she’d struck a blow to the side of his head and he died, that would’ve been more fitting. But there wouldn’t have been blood that way.

MildredMilton just has a headache:

Now. How do I like them apples? Well. Better, honestly. But they’re still pretty sucky apples. Do you know why? Because “Somebody Dies” is not a story. How do people keep not getting this? A story is a mystery to solve, a problem to overcome, a new character thrown into the mix. It’s not a bunch of guys sitting around a room thinking, “Who can we kill?” It’s not, “supervillains attack the wedding so someone can die at the end,” it’s, “here’s a specific reason and way that supervillains attack the wedding.” It’s not, “people fight below their ability and act out of character, in order for someone to die,” it’s “here is the reason that people act out of character and can’t fight as well as they usually can, and here’s how we resolve it.”

And we also have a few more reactions to the comic itself.

Matthew Peterson generally liked it:

I know that Judd Winick can write Green Arrow in a manner that I enjoy, but I’ve never been 100% sold on his Black Canary. This issue gives me some hope, but still leaves me with areas of concern, especially if we’re going to see Dinah as the vengeful bride, a la ‘Kill Bill.’ Still, there are a couple of dozen beautiful character moments in this issue, a couple of “Hell, Yeahs” (Batman “coming for the fight,” as well as the male stripper sequence) and it’s a pretty enjoyable ride to the altar, with one of the few unequivocally TRUE cover blurbs in recent history (”You Wont’ Believe This Wedding Night!”) All told, we’re looking at a solid 4 out of 5 star rating, with beautiful Amanda Connor art and a nicely done surprise ending that really shook me up…

While Irrational Mad Man specifically counters reviewers who disliked the opening fight:

I guess the point I’m trying to make is that I don’t find it unreasonable that BC and GA would use an argument as foreplay, nor do I find it unreasonable that BC would slap GA if angry. This is a woman who is best known for her extraordinary skill in using violence to achieve her ends, and is known to have quite a hot temper. The idea that she would get angry with GA and use some very very low grade violence is not unreasonable, especially since she knows he can take it. Now I wouldn’t expect BC to beat the living hell out of him, or to break his limbs over an argument, but the idea that she would slap him? Not a big deal really.

So what do you think?

11 Responses to “Variations on a Theme…”
  1. Ryan Higgins Says:

    I think people take this crap way too seriously.

  2. Tired Says:

    And now the problem is that a woman character MIGHT have been killed, not that she actually was killed.

    Are people still “baffled?”

  3. Kwaku Says:

    I wish the books that people say they do like would get half as much attention as this.

  4. Melissa Krause Says:

    I wish the books that people say they do like would get half as much attention as this.

    Variations focuses on topics that have, as implied by the name, varied responses. Feel free to give attention to books you like, perhaps it will get noticed.

  5. Kallaj Says:

    You’re gonna hate every writer for a bad idea they considered then decided was a bad idea and didn’t use, you’re gonna hate all writers ever.

    Or is the idea just that writers aren’t supposed to admit what their early ideas were like in public?

  6. Cole Moore Odell Says:

    It’s amazing how many people talking about comics online have apparently never read comics before. For those of you who complain in 2007 that a superhero comic has people acting out of character, characters being subservient to nonsensical plots, or the titular hero seemingly dying in a big last page cliffhanger, I have a giant, moldering stack of comics for you by Bob Kanigher, Bob Haney, Stan Lee, John Broome, Gardner Fox, Marv Wolfman, Chris Claremont, Roy Thomas, Bill Mantlo, Cary Bates…I’d keep typing but my finger hurts.

    The Green Arrow/Black Canary wedding comics, which I just read in a batch yesterday, are filled with all kinds of sex and violence twisted together in a way that almost makes me wonder how the fuck the superhero industry got to this point. I say “almost” because it’s pretty obvious how we got here, but these books had enough debased banality to make me forget for a minute.

    That said, one could make the argument, were one so inclined, that “someone dies” is really the only story there is, and that every other plot is just stalling to avoid that inevitable conclusion. What was it Orson Welles said about happy endings? It depends where you stop telling the story.

  7. Kwaku Says:

    I wasn’t directing that at you or Variations. Sorry it came out like that.
    I’m just hopelessly optimistic and tend to see the good more than the bad. There is a lot of good going on in comics but we focus on the bad.(God, I sound like Fox news).

    Anyway.. I like Variations, you present both sides of the argument and almost never includes your own opinions.

  8. Tuckenie (Vallen C. Tucker) Says:

    Wow Cole. I think you just blew my hair back a little.

  9. Daniel Says:

    Green Arrow + Death = Suck
    (Sorry that’s as much as I can wrestle up right now).

  10. Grant Says:

    Didn’t they do this on Lois & Clark or something? Or was it that all the bride did was eat a frog? I don’t remember anymore…

  11. Johan Åberg Says:

    Since when is it wrong to kill fictional characters? They’re not real people. I say we kill them all. Fictious bastards, with their eternal lives and their make-out parties…

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