Comments on: Isn’t it ironic? Don’tchathink? http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/03/01/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/ The Blog@ Team and prominent comics personalities share what’s on their minds. Tue, 21 May 2013 19:00:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: JohnnyZito http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/03/01/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/comment-page-1/#comment-83038 JohnnyZito Fri, 02 Mar 2007 19:33:15 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/02/28/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/#comment-83038 Intentionally designed that way or not, that's how I read it. Fear is driving all of the characters in CW instead of courage or bravery... you know those things we think of as "heroic" traits... Intentionally designed that way or not, that’s how I read it.

Fear is driving all of the characters in CW instead of courage or bravery… you know those things we think of as “heroic” traits…

]]> By: Prem http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/03/01/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/comment-page-1/#comment-82524 Prem Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:43:50 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/02/28/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/#comment-82524 I like your comment about how the superheroes are essentially "legitimately" in control now. They wouldn't have to overtake the whitehouse or shield to have their way now. They are SHIELD. They are in control in both power and bureaucracy. I like your comment about how the superheroes are essentially “legitimately” in control now.
They wouldn’t have to overtake the whitehouse or shield to have their way now. They are SHIELD. They are in control in both power and bureaucracy.

]]> By: David Horenstein http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/03/01/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/comment-page-1/#comment-82480 David Horenstein Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:49:04 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/02/28/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/#comment-82480 *rolls eyes* Millar doesn't know how to be subtle, trying to re-invent history to make Civil War logical is in fact, illogical. What I find puzzling are all these commentators, critics, and fans being so mind-numbingly stupid regarding the rule of law. That the typical marvel zombie and the Millar fanboy are bending over backwards to come up with some lame excuse isn't suprising. What is suprising are people that are supposed to be smart, not using common sense regarding that stupid series. Want to practice medicine? Want to practice law? How about cutting someone's hair? You need training and you need a license. It's not just about your civil liberties, it's about everyone's civil liberties. It's also against the law to be a vigilante. I know, shocking. And, get this, to get a law over-turned, you don't get into a fist fight. You don't have to have a master's degree in political science to understand this. We overlook the masked vigilante part. Because, the cops could pretty much get Doc Oct and the Joker without the help of Spider-Man and Batman. We'll gladly strech logic for an enjoyable story. But, this entire series streched logic beyond the breaking point. Mainly, because the writer, the editor, and the people in charge, never bothered to apply common sense to this story. The whole thing was complete nonsense. It was from the get-go, despite all this talk about how it'll reflect the "real world." It didn't. Even on a "check your brain at the door and enjoy the stupidity of it all" level, this series didn't work. *rolls eyes*

Millar doesn’t know how to be subtle, trying to re-invent history to make Civil War logical is in fact, illogical.

What I find puzzling are all these commentators, critics, and fans being so mind-numbingly stupid regarding the rule of law. That the typical marvel zombie and the Millar fanboy are bending over backwards to come up with some lame excuse isn’t suprising. What is suprising are people that are supposed to be smart, not using common sense regarding that stupid series.

Want to practice medicine? Want to practice law? How about cutting someone’s hair? You need training and you need a license.

It’s not just about your civil liberties, it’s about everyone’s civil liberties.

It’s also against the law to be a vigilante.

I know, shocking.

And, get this, to get a law over-turned, you don’t get into a fist fight.

You don’t have to have a master’s degree in political science to understand this.

We overlook the masked vigilante part. Because, the cops could pretty much get Doc Oct and the Joker without the help of Spider-Man and Batman. We’ll gladly strech logic for an enjoyable story. But, this entire series streched logic beyond the breaking point. Mainly, because the writer, the editor, and the people in charge, never bothered to apply common sense to this story.

The whole thing was complete nonsense. It was from the get-go, despite all this talk about how it’ll reflect the “real world.” It didn’t.

Even on a “check your brain at the door and enjoy the stupidity of it all” level, this series didn’t work.

]]> By: Evan http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/03/01/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/comment-page-1/#comment-82460 Evan Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:09:56 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/02/28/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/#comment-82460 Everyone agrees Civil War is post 9/11 / Bush Administration retort. The problem is, Millar and Marvel keep trying to deny that was their whole point of the story when its too mired in it to think otherwise. They want you to think it just happened to turn out that way. Everyone agrees Civil War is post 9/11 / Bush Administration retort.

The problem is, Millar and Marvel keep trying to deny that was their whole point of the story when its too mired in it to think otherwise.

They want you to think it just happened to turn out that way.

]]> By: The Mutt http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/03/01/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/comment-page-1/#comment-82436 The Mutt Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:12:03 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/02/28/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/#comment-82436 Maybe this explains it: <a href="http://photobucket.com" rel="nofollow"></a> Maybe this explains it:

]]> By: Jamie http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/03/01/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/comment-page-1/#comment-82429 Jamie Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:52:56 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/02/28/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/#comment-82429 I ran out of toilet roll the other day and found a new way to enjoy CIVIL WAR. Oooh, shiny paper! I ran out of toilet roll the other day and found a new way to enjoy CIVIL WAR. Oooh, shiny paper!

]]> By: jake saint http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/03/01/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/comment-page-1/#comment-82412 jake saint Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:10:48 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/02/28/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/#comment-82412 See, I think Millar's comments on Civil War have been "too cute by half"-- that he's deliberately misleading fans on his personal feelings in order to set up an I-felt-<i>this</i>-way-all-along about-face that will BLOW EVERYBODY AWAY somewhen in the future. Which means we're now entering the age of superhero comics when you need to be reading the message boards for the meta-commentary in order to get the full effect of the printed work. Or did that happen already? See, I think Millar’s comments on Civil War have been “too cute by half”– that he’s deliberately misleading fans on his personal feelings in order to set up an I-felt-this-way-all-along about-face that will BLOW EVERYBODY AWAY somewhen in the future. Which means we’re now entering the age of superhero comics when you need to be reading the message boards for the meta-commentary in order to get the full effect of the printed work. Or did that happen already?

]]> By: Dave http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/03/01/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/comment-page-1/#comment-82397 Dave Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:28:39 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/02/28/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/#comment-82397 I once convinced myself that having my house robbed would "rid me of my materialistic desires" and eventualy make me happier. I once convinced myself that having my house robbed would “rid me of my materialistic desires” and eventualy make me happier.

]]> By: Palladin http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/03/01/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/comment-page-1/#comment-82372 Palladin Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:21:18 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/02/28/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/#comment-82372 What's ironic is that we comic fans will never learn. What’s ironic is that we comic fans will never learn.

]]> By: jlg http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/03/01/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/comment-page-1/#comment-82182 jlg Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:34:58 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/02/28/isnt-it-ironic-dontchathink/#comment-82182 Doesn't sound any less valid than trying to take Infinite Crisis as some grand, complex metacriticism on comics and fandom, really. Doesn’t sound any less valid than trying to take Infinite Crisis as some grand, complex metacriticism on comics and fandom, really.

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