Comments on: You have all failed in your responsibility. http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/ The Blog@ Team and prominent comics personalities share what’s on their minds. Sun, 26 May 2013 00:52:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Live Free or Dan Coyle http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-53082 Live Free or Dan Coyle Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:57:35 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/#comment-53082 Yeah, <I>Heroes for Hire</I> is the book that followed DotD, and that's selling rather well. Yeah, Heroes for Hire is the book that followed DotD, and that’s selling rather well.

]]> By: david brothers http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-52828 david brothers Sat, 30 Dec 2006 04:42:09 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/#comment-52828 I thought that DotD was kind of fun, myself. But it had very, very little to do with Iron Fist, save for guest-starring him in the last issue and maybe the last page of the previous issue. That's hardly going to color sales on a book that doesn't even mention the other series in its marketing. I thought that DotD was kind of fun, myself.

But it had very, very little to do with Iron Fist, save for guest-starring him in the last issue and maybe the last page of the previous issue. That’s hardly going to color sales on a book that doesn’t even mention the other series in its marketing.

]]> By: Alan Coil http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-52820 Alan Coil Sat, 30 Dec 2006 03:53:38 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/#comment-52820 . I read this book. (Is that trademarked?) The first issue had a few art things that needed to be corrected before it was sent to the printer, but weren't. The second had no immediately noticeable problems, and was a better comic than the first. And I didn't buy it. Too many other things, too little money. Sales may have been held down because of the quality of the previous series that involved this group of characters. Daughters of the Dragon was horrid. Marvel should be ashamed of themselves for publishing it. . .
I read this book. (Is that trademarked?)

The first issue had a few art things that needed to be corrected before it was sent to the printer, but weren’t. The second had no immediately noticeable problems, and was a better comic than the first.

And I didn’t buy it. Too many other things, too little money.

Sales may have been held down because of the quality of the previous series that involved this group of characters. Daughters of the Dragon was horrid. Marvel should be ashamed of themselves for publishing it.
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]]> By: Paul O'Brien http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-52792 Paul O'Brien Sat, 30 Dec 2006 01:37:13 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/#comment-52792 It's perhaps worth mentioning, in this context, that IRON FIST #1 shipped in the last week of the month, so there would be no opportunity for re-orders to appear on the November chart. It’s perhaps worth mentioning, in this context, that IRON FIST #1 shipped in the last week of the month, so there would be no opportunity for re-orders to appear on the November chart.

]]> By: Mel Valentin http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-52698 Mel Valentin Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:29:25 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/#comment-52698 Good to read Ed's take on the sales figures. Like others here, I'd like to see Iron Fist do well and have a long healthy run. The first issue was all set up, but that's fine (haven't read the second issue yet). Given the Brubaker-Fraction combo and my nostalgia for characters I read when I was a kid, I'm willing to give Iron Fist 5-6 issues before deciding if I'm in it for the long haul. As a commenter already mentioned, Next Wave's cancellation was a serious bummer (ok, I'm Californian, I can use the word "bummer"). Ellis has promised Next Wave mini-series, but I won't hold my breath (Ellis has plenty on his plate as is). Good to read Ed’s take on the sales figures. Like others here, I’d like to see Iron Fist do well and have a long healthy run. The first issue was all set up, but that’s fine (haven’t read the second issue yet). Given the Brubaker-Fraction combo and my nostalgia for characters I read when I was a kid, I’m willing to give Iron Fist 5-6 issues before deciding if I’m in it for the long haul.

As a commenter already mentioned, Next Wave’s cancellation was a serious bummer (ok, I’m Californian, I can use the word “bummer”). Ellis has promised Next Wave mini-series, but I won’t hold my breath (Ellis has plenty on his plate as is).

]]> By: Matt D http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-52691 Matt D Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:13:54 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/#comment-52691 Iron Fist has been great. I'm going to do my part, after trying the first two and adding it to my pull. It can take the Agents of ATLAS spot now that AoA is just about over. Iron Fist has been great. I’m going to do my part, after trying the first two and adding it to my pull.

It can take the Agents of ATLAS spot now that AoA is just about over.

]]> By: david brothers http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-52689 david brothers Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:03:58 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/#comment-52689 Iron Fist is ridiculously good. Best new Marvel book in ages, I think, and I demand at least two years of it, preferably three! Seriously, if I don't get a bunch of issues of Iron Fist, split across two or three hardcover collections, I am going to lie down right here <i>and pitch a fit like a three year old</i>. Do you want to see a grown man cry? Then go buy Iron Fist! (Coyle has a point, but the best non-funny page in the book was the page after Severin's art, with Randall standing in the street. It took me half a second to realize what had happened, and oh man! Great stuff.) Iron Fist is ridiculously good. Best new Marvel book in ages, I think, and I demand at least two years of it, preferably three!

Seriously, if I don’t get a bunch of issues of Iron Fist, split across two or three hardcover collections, I am going to lie down right here and pitch a fit like a three year old.

Do you want to see a grown man cry? Then go buy Iron Fist!

(Coyle has a point, but the best non-funny page in the book was the page after Severin’s art, with Randall standing in the street. It took me half a second to realize what had happened, and oh man! Great stuff.)

]]> By: Live Free or Dan Coyle http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-52686 Live Free or Dan Coyle Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:57:24 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/#comment-52686 Hey Ed, I'm loving the book, it's pretty damn awesome. The panel of Orson leaping towards the Germans, crotch-akimbo, was simultaneously weirdly funny and super-awesome. I also like the characterization of Danny, which hearkens back to his more newbie days. And Jeryn Hogarth is interesting for the first time in the character's history. And I'm reminded that <I>X-Men: Fairy Tales</I> sold horrible for an X-book (IIRC REALLY horrible) but the comic sold out at retaliers and well enough to greenlight further Fairy Tales books. Hey Ed, I’m loving the book, it’s pretty damn awesome. The panel of Orson leaping towards the Germans, crotch-akimbo, was simultaneously weirdly funny and super-awesome.

I also like the characterization of Danny, which hearkens back to his more newbie days. And Jeryn Hogarth is interesting for the first time in the character’s history.

And I’m reminded that X-Men: Fairy Tales sold horrible for an X-book (IIRC REALLY horrible) but the comic sold out at retaliers and well enough to greenlight further Fairy Tales books.

]]> By: Ed Brubaker http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-52667 Ed Brubaker Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:17:46 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/#comment-52667 And if you're looking for an example of this being about actual demand, there were initially no plans to reprint issue 1 until the Director's cut in February, but so many retailers flooded Marvel with requests for a second printing right away that it went back to press immediately. And if you’re looking for an example of this being about actual demand, there were initially no plans to reprint issue 1 until the Director’s cut in February, but so many retailers flooded Marvel with requests for a second printing right away that it went back to press immediately.

]]> By: Ed Brubaker http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-52665 Ed Brubaker Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:11:34 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/#comment-52665 Actually, this is one of the few cases where the "sold out" PR is real. Iron Fist #1 was under-ordered because it was one of the few non-CW books launching, and retailers all over the country were actually selling out of it on the day it came out. Plus, we DID overprint it fairly heavily. I don't have the exact numbers, but with the second printing I think we're over 50K sold at this point, and retailers are still telling us they can't keep it on the shelves. Personally, it did better than I expected it to, because, you know... it's Iron Fist. I'll be happy if we make it to issue 16 just to beat John Byrne's record. Actually, this is one of the few cases where the “sold out” PR is real. Iron Fist #1 was under-ordered because it was one of the few non-CW books launching, and retailers all over the country were actually selling out of it on the day it came out. Plus, we DID overprint it fairly heavily. I don’t have the exact numbers, but with the second printing I think we’re over 50K sold at this point, and retailers are still telling us they can’t keep it on the shelves.

Personally, it did better than I expected it to, because, you know… it’s Iron Fist. I’ll be happy if we make it to issue 16 just to beat John Byrne’s record.

]]> By: Frank Davis http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-52657 Frank Davis Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:39:51 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/#comment-52657 I'm loving the new Iron Fist. Then again comics do not love me back since Nextwave is just about done. The big problem is that Marvel fans only want things with the Civil War logo on it. This should display the difference between Marvel and DC. Marvel brands their hits and the fans follow the branded hit books. If there is a lack of brand, sales go down. DC fans demand silverage goodness and demand reinforced conservatism across the line. I’m loving the new Iron Fist.

Then again comics do not love me back since Nextwave is just about done.

The big problem is that Marvel fans only want things with the Civil War logo on it.

This should display the difference between Marvel and DC.

Marvel brands their hits and the fans follow the branded hit books. If there is a lack of brand, sales go down.

DC fans demand silverage goodness and demand reinforced conservatism across the line.

]]> By: Justin http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-52650 Justin Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:24:08 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/#comment-52650 The last Iron Fist solo sucked. Even though I knew I wouldn't get burned by this outing I was hesitant, I can't blame anyone who is less informed for holding off. That being said the first issue was absolutely great. The last Iron Fist solo sucked. Even though I knew I wouldn’t get burned by this outing I was hesitant, I can’t blame anyone who is less informed for holding off. That being said the first issue was absolutely great.

]]> By: Carroll http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-52645 Carroll Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:05:50 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/12/29/you-have-all-failed-in-your-responsibility/#comment-52645 I would have guessed that it would have at least matched Daredevil numbers, seeing as how Brubaker is one of the writers and the art looks similar to Daredevil's (oh, and because Danny Rand WAS Daredevil for a bit). This makes me sad because I really like this book and I don't want it to be canceled after the first story arc. Seems like a few very good books at Marvel are getting swept under the rug recently, possibly because everyone is buying Civil War stuff? Who knows. I would have guessed that it would have at least matched Daredevil numbers, seeing as how Brubaker is one of the writers and the art looks similar to Daredevil’s (oh, and because Danny Rand WAS Daredevil for a bit). This makes me sad because I really like this book and I don’t want it to be canceled after the first story arc. Seems like a few very good books at Marvel are getting swept under the rug recently, possibly because everyone is buying Civil War stuff? Who knows.

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