Tamora Pierce tackled two major peeves in a recent livejournal post that’s making the rounds in the blogosphere right now.
First, she offers some thoughts about all of the individual attention she’s getting as the writer of White Tiger:
Tim and I are clearly listed as co-writers on the cover of the White Tiger books, and in the credits, but nine times out of ten, when the books are discussed, I’m named as sole writer. This really burns my bacon. We did all the interviews together; we’ve talked about the book in blog posts as co-writers, and yet people seem determined to forget there’s two of us in this. It gets really interesting in the slams. It’s almost as if people want to forget there’s a guy in this, too, so they can heap extra scorn on the girl. On the praise side, they want to give me all the credit, never mind that Tim writes the whole first draft (after we bash out the outline together)–a pretty serious contribution.
What is this? With a female involved, people want to go blind to the man’s share? Or–just as insulting to Tim–because I’m the Name–people assume he’s my Arm Charm, and I do all the heavy lifting? His contribution is getting ignored, for any reason, and it’s pissing me off.
I wonder if Terry Dodson has ever registered a similar complaint?
Then, in the meat of the post, she addresses a common, well-meaning question about her writing and poses an excellent question of her own:
More and more these days I am being asked why I choose to write female heroes, and/or when will I write male heroes. I’m polite in my answers, because people honestly seem puzzled by my choices, but I’m starting to boil a little, and I’m definitely building up a head of frustration. Why does no one ask male writers why they write male heroes?Worse, why do girls and women ask me this? Okay, I can understand it–sort of–when moms of boys ask me. They want female-positive books with heroes their kids will read. And I point out the truth. I have a boy hero, Briar, in the Circle of Magic universe, and in fact he’s one of my most popular heroes, though I think it’s more because he’s just plain fun, and he knows how to deal with girls. His three co-heroes are female, after all. Moreover, because my other female heroes tend to be involved in primarily masculine fields of endeavor–knighthood, war, policework, revolutions–they are surrounded by boys and men who are friends, teachers, rivals, and foes. My male fans read my books because they are adventures, not classically categorized “girl books.” I just have always believed that girls want adventures, too, and since none were available when I was a kid, I have always written adventure novels with girl heroes. Boys, once they get past the girl on the cover, almost always respond.
And for the rest, it used to be that seven out of eight novels had boy heroes. Now the figure is more like six out of seven, though I have a feeling that the number of boy heroes may be rising with perception that boys don’t read, and we must save our boys! (and jettison our girls, or feed them clique novels with makeup and girls and boys sabotaging one another).
It really hurts when girls ask me this. Are they so beaten down by our culture’s superior value on boys that they don’t understand why someone would prefer to write for them, showcasing their strengths and possibilities? Do they find it so strange that someone would willingly showcase them? So brainwashed that they think there’s something wrong with me that I prefer it, or that I prefer girl heroes, and not princesses, or princesses in disguise, or orphans in quest of families, or loner socialites, or rocker wanna-bes, or girl victims? (Not that I don’t value the books in which girls begin as victims–I read them myself, and really like the way the characters learn what’s going find strength and a way out. But I prefer a different approach, and when girls ask me why I’m doing it, I need to start asking, “Why aren’t more people doing it? Aren’t you worth as many heroes as the boys get?”
When the adults ask me, that’s when I really start to burn, though I always stay polite. Again, I have to wonder if they ask male writers who specialize in boy heroes why they do that. I want to ask the media people whose side they’re on, though I do wonder if they don’t wonder if they ask me the question to allow me to make the point that there aren’t enough girl heroes out there, and why not? But honestly, why is it strange to like to write for girls?
Aren’t they worth it? Look at them on the soccer field, or bent over a book. Watch them in the mall, looking at music or clothes, or at home or in gym, practicing headstands and somersaults. Do you see them in class, getting all fired up about injustice, or in a club, dancing to set the world on fire? Do you see them bent over sketch pads or lap tops, working away, or read their internet posts, where being unseen sets them free to say what they think? They’re a more tremendous resource than oil or water, and they are trashed, ignored, lectured, talked down to, shoved aside, told they’re hos/sluts/technoignoramuses, tied up and abused in games/movies/comics/television, handed diets until they collapse from the weight of them–and yet they are still thinking, still active, still passionate, still idealists. They are world-beaters.
Why aren’t more people writing for them, and I mean “for”, as in, in ways that makes them feel like what they are: a powerful force. People who make a difference. Not toys, not negligible quantities to be shoved aside every time people get their panties in a bunch about boys, but serious players on the world stage. Serious contributors to everyone’s lives.
December 18th, 2006 at 12:31 pm
This has only the thinest of connections to the article but…
Why does everyone think Gail Simone would be the perfect Wonder Woman writer? I know BoP has its followers, but is that all it takes? You can write a good book with female characters and then you should write Wonder Woman? I think many fans are mentioning her specificaly because she is a woman.
December 18th, 2006 at 12:34 pm
Her claims on credit in comic books are pretty valid. With Blue Beetle, people only praised Keith Giffen and never John Rogers. With Justice, people only praise Alex Ross and never Jim Kreuger or Dough Braitwaite. With Cross Bronx, people only seem to praise Michael Avon Oeming and never Ivan Brandon. With The All New Atom, people praised Grant Morrison for the reason why Ivy Town was so crazy even though it was Gail Simone’s idea.
As much as I like certain writers and artists, I hate the idea of star writers and artists. I hate the idea that people only recognize one person for the end product. Its as if no one else is talented enough to write or come up with those ideas. I hate the fact that colorists and letters are ignored. There’s a lot of talent out there that people seem to ignore because they don’t know them.
I also hate that colorists and letters are ignored. They are far more imporant than people think. I was extremely grateful that Dave Stewart was on the cover of The Spirit.
December 18th, 2006 at 12:35 pm
I have the same feeling. Not that I would mind seeing Gail on Wonder Woman, but I don’t really know what makes her a better fit than a lot of other writers (other than her being good).
December 18th, 2006 at 12:43 pm
Ian,
I think you’re right. The only work I liked from her is The Atom and Tranquility. They’re both fresh and pretty original. I think people mention her is because that’s the only name they can come up with. They’re also mentioning her because she’s a woman. I doubt many of these complainers even bought Wonder Woman under Rucka’s run. Its as if only certain writers can make a character viable. In this case, only a woman. I didn’t like Gail’s take on Wonder Woman in her JLA: Classified arc. She was stiff and wooden with some forced charm glazed on her.
Jim Kreuger said that he has revolutionary way that would change Wonder Woman, but still keep her in sync with the DCU. He write’s her beautifully in JUSTICE, and I desperately want to see what he can do with her in continuity.
December 18th, 2006 at 1:58 pm
Thanks for the link to Pierce’s blog, Lisa - I look forward to reading it!
Re: the Dodsons, it’s my understanding that he pencils and she inks, and of course inkers never get any love.
December 18th, 2006 at 2:10 pm
I haven’t followed White Tiger at all, but I do recall when Marvel first announced it, Tamora Pierce was the sole focus of their PR efforts. Even the requests for interviews they sent out specified her. I didn’t know there was a co-writer on the series until the hubbub around her characterization of Latinos came up and I flipped through an issue.
December 18th, 2006 at 2:12 pm
This current crop of comics professionals are a prickly lot, aren’t they? Geez, I remember a time when creators not only were ignored for a COVER credit, but an INTERIOR credit as well!
Lighten up.
December 18th, 2006 at 2:14 pm
I actually found John Rogers getting about equal credit for the writing on Beetle, though that may be because he drops in on a message board I frequent rather often. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Terry & Rachel Dodson separated since she started inking his stuff.
The problem with the comparisons up above, and with Pierce’s co-writing conundrum, is that Alex Ross is a Name. Tamora Pierce is a Name. Animal Man was a brilliant ride, but you hear about Grant Morrison, not Tom Grummet, Doug Hazlewood, or Chas Truog.
They will always, always get higher billing simply because they sell more books. It sucks, but that’s the way it works. There isn’t necessarily an evil ulterior motive behind it, it is just that Names sell books so companies push names. If all you hear is “Tamora Pierce’s White Tiger” you won’t even think to go “Oh, hey, who is this cowriter here?” It isn’t always intentionally snubbing a cowriter or hinting that he does less work, but a snub it remains. It is marketing.
That’s why Marvel’s upcoming Dark Tower stuff is “STEVEN KING’s DARK TOWER (ps peter david and robin furth wrote it, jae lee drew it).”
December 18th, 2006 at 2:22 pm
I can only remember one time I saw Rachel Dodson inking someone other than Terry: Aaron Lopresti’s art on Deadpool #-1.
December 18th, 2006 at 2:38 pm
Notice how no-one talks about the other, and I think, more important, part of the article.
December 18th, 2006 at 2:53 pm
That’s a little passive aggressive, but I didn’t mention it because it makes a point that I think stands on its own. There isn’t much more I can say to that but “Amen,” I guess?
What’s your take?
December 18th, 2006 at 7:17 pm
Inkers get more credit than colorists, and its the colorists that make people take notice of the art at first glance.
December 19th, 2006 at 2:28 pm
Ian, while I do think that a lot of people are saying put Gail on Wonder Woman just because she’s a woman its also due to the fact that she’s never really had a woman writer before (although now Jodi Piccoult gets first crack and she name checks someone whose name I can’t remember who worked with Perez in the beginning. As well as the original creator’s wife.)
With the industry being as male dominant as it is, whenever female writers are able to come into prominence, I think the fans would like to see their perspective on female characters right off the bat as it tends to ring more true to the nature of the character.
But the crowd certainly starts to get a little louder when they look at everyone who’s written Diana in her over 60 years of existence and not a single woman has ever had the oppurtunity?
The closest you get are male writers who happen to be openly homosexual.
In the end, a good writer is a good writer and that’s the important thing gender be damned, but when it stares at you in the face like that, you tend to want to try to even it up a little bit.
December 20th, 2006 at 3:21 pm
Not that anyone’s asked, but I wouldn’t take the chance if offered to write Wonder Woman. The character’s been whipsawed in so many directions over the years. I honestly don’t think I could come up with anything to do with her that might work that hasn’t been tried and tanked for one reason or another.
Unless they’d let me send her someplace like Darfur . . . and I bet the fanboys would hate that. It would give *me* a warm fuzzy, though.
December 21st, 2006 at 12:28 am
Tamora — Actually, Diana in Darfur sounds like a plot idea you may as well pitch. She’s a character historically associated with real-world social issues. DC might go for it for a special or a fill-in.