Comments on: Point/Counterpoint in the Blogosphere… http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/11/07/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-14/ The Blog@ Team and prominent comics personalities share what’s on their minds. Fri, 24 May 2013 03:41:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Matthew http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/11/07/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-14/comment-page-1/#comment-32137 Matthew Wed, 08 Nov 2006 14:29:57 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/11/07/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-14/#comment-32137 Cassandra's relationship with her father is basically that of an abused child to his/her abusive parent. You know what they're doing/did is wrong, but you also know that they're your parent. So there's some cognitive dissonance there. Anyway, the change made no sense. Read the most recent Batgirl trade paperback, as well as "Death Wish" for that matter and compare it to RObi #150-151. NO SENSE. Cassandra’s relationship with her father is basically that of an abused child to his/her abusive parent. You know what they’re doing/did is wrong, but you also know that they’re your parent. So there’s some cognitive dissonance there.

Anyway, the change made no sense. Read the most recent Batgirl trade paperback, as well as “Death Wish” for that matter and compare it to RObi #150-151. NO SENSE.

]]> By: Diamondrock http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/11/07/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-14/comment-page-1/#comment-31940 Diamondrock Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:31:51 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/11/07/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-14/#comment-31940 Upon further reflection, I believe my last comment may have been a tad hasty. Upon further consideration, I think the above poster is correct: Cassandra doesn't really hate her father. I think she's really incapable of hating anyone. She doesn't like him much. And she's very, very angry at him because he could never give her what she need. But no, she doesn't hate him as such. Upon further reflection, I believe my last comment may have been a tad hasty. Upon further consideration, I think the above poster is correct: Cassandra doesn’t really hate her father.

I think she’s really incapable of hating anyone. She doesn’t like him much. And she’s very, very angry at him because he could never give her what she need.

But no, she doesn’t hate him as such.

]]> By: Diamondrock http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/11/07/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-14/comment-page-1/#comment-31926 Diamondrock Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:10:00 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/11/07/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-14/#comment-31926 Well, the relationship between Cass and her father *is* VERY complicated. Though I stand by the statement that she hates him. She hates him because he doesn't love her, I think. Not really. Not the way a father should love his daughter. He has pride in her like the way a man might take pride in in his customized motorcycle. And any love she did have for him was lost when she found what she needed with Batman (though they've ignored *that* relationship for a damn long time). Cassandra let him go so many times becauses (until recently) the idea that a person COULD CHANGE was at the very heart of her character and personality. For Cass, it was all about second chances. That, of course, has been destroyed. Well, the relationship between Cass and her father *is* VERY complicated. Though I stand by the statement that she hates him. She hates him because he doesn’t love her, I think. Not really. Not the way a father should love his daughter. He has pride in her like the way a man might take pride in in his customized motorcycle.

And any love she did have for him was lost when she found what she needed with Batman (though they’ve ignored *that* relationship for a damn long time).

Cassandra let him go so many times becauses (until recently) the idea that a person COULD CHANGE was at the very heart of her character and personality. For Cass, it was all about second chances.

That, of course, has been destroyed.

]]> By: del gorky http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/11/07/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-14/comment-page-1/#comment-31784 del gorky Wed, 08 Nov 2006 02:33:23 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/11/07/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-14/#comment-31784 This simply filled me with hate. Must make sure to never pick up an issue of Robin or whatever Beechen is writing. Must now take out hate on dirty bathroom! This simply filled me with hate. Must make sure to never pick up an issue of Robin or whatever Beechen is writing. Must now take out hate on dirty bathroom!

]]> By: david brothers http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/11/07/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-14/comment-page-1/#comment-31683 david brothers Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:10:05 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/11/07/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-14/#comment-31683 Aw! You would link me when I'm light on original content. Muchas gracias regardless, however. I still like the heel turn, though I do agree with Beechen that he could've taken more time with it. I would disagree with the C/P's idea that Cass hates her father, though. She may not like him much, but she's let him go on a couple different occasions (once early in the series when he was caught stealing something, I believe) and I think that she loves him deep down, but hates what he tried to do to her. I think that their relationship is a little more complicated than that, to be quite honest, but that's another post entirely. Actually, that may not be a bad write-up... Aw! You would link me when I’m light on original content. Muchas gracias regardless, however.

I still like the heel turn, though I do agree with Beechen that he could’ve taken more time with it.

I would disagree with the C/P’s idea that Cass hates her father, though. She may not like him much, but she’s let him go on a couple different occasions (once early in the series when he was caught stealing something, I believe) and I think that she loves him deep down, but hates what he tried to do to her. I think that their relationship is a little more complicated than that, to be quite honest, but that’s another post entirely. Actually, that may not be a bad write-up…

]]> By: Waking http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/11/07/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-14/comment-page-1/#comment-31659 Waking Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:59:50 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/11/07/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-14/#comment-31659 Cass Cain's descent into crazyness can be easily remedies. It's known that being resurructed by a lazarus pit tends to make people wonky. Every villainous act she's done so far can be redeemed as "she was crazy, all she needed was therapy." Cass Cain’s descent into crazyness can be easily remedies. It’s known that being resurructed by a lazarus pit tends to make people wonky. Every villainous act she’s done so far can be redeemed as “she was crazy, all she needed was therapy.”

]]> By: Tuckenie http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/11/07/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-14/comment-page-1/#comment-31639 Tuckenie Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:41:31 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/11/07/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-14/#comment-31639 Honestly I think Beechen is just taking the fall for one of Geoff John's ideas. She IS a member of Titans East after all. Which brings up a question, what is the head of the League of Assassins doing joing a team of teenagers under Deathstroke? Doesn't she outrank him now? Honestly I think Beechen is just taking the fall for one of Geoff John’s ideas. She IS a member of Titans East after all. Which brings up a question, what is the head of the League of Assassins doing joing a team of teenagers under Deathstroke? Doesn’t she outrank him now?

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