Comments on: Point/Counterpoint in the Blogosphere… http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/10/19/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-9/ The Blog@ Team and prominent comics personalities share what’s on their minds. Mon, 20 May 2013 20:44:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Justin http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/10/19/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-9/comment-page-1/#comment-24835 Justin Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:01:25 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/10/19/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-9/#comment-24835 wow, so first the 3 gay young avengers are locked up and ready to die "because they're aliens" and then Freedom Ring gets killed brutally... hmm... wow, so first the 3 gay young avengers are locked up and ready to die “because they’re aliens” and then Freedom Ring gets killed brutally… hmm…

]]> By: Dawn http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/10/19/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-9/comment-page-1/#comment-24645 Dawn Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:37:41 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/10/19/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-9/#comment-24645 Seriously this PC crap is just bringing down the culture of our country >>>>> Wowzers. That's a huge claim. Anyway, I'm thinking it's not about the PC aspect AT ALL for most of the people complaining about Freedom Ring's death. It's most likely about a group of fans who haven't seen any characters who reflected an important aspect of themselves for most of their time as fans. Then one pops up and BOOM is killed off in a heartbeat. Until Marvel and DC get a fairly good roster of diverse characters it's just going to seem suspicious when the few that are gay are offed almost before they got a chance to live. Like it or not comics have been pretty homophobic places for a long time so maybe they'll just have to err on the side of caution for awhile and let the gay characters live a bit. Seriously this PC crap is just bringing down the culture of our country
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Wowzers. That’s a huge claim.

Anyway, I’m thinking it’s not about the PC aspect AT ALL for most of the people complaining about Freedom Ring’s death. It’s most likely about a group of fans who haven’t seen any characters who reflected an important aspect of themselves for most of their time as fans. Then one pops up and BOOM is killed off in a heartbeat.

Until Marvel and DC get a fairly good roster of diverse characters it’s just going to seem suspicious when the few that are gay are offed almost before they got a chance to live. Like it or not comics have been pretty homophobic places for a long time so maybe they’ll just have to err on the side of caution for awhile and let the gay characters live a bit.

]]> By: Steven http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/10/19/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-9/comment-page-1/#comment-24577 Steven Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:27:08 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/10/19/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-9/#comment-24577 In retrospect, what made everything worse was Joe Quesada pointing to Freedom Ring as an example of a gay Marvel superhero two weeks before the character's death. It a) made a character who happened to be gay into a GAY character, and b) when his brutal, shocking death did occur, the message inferred was "and THIS is how Marvel treats GAY characters." And again, the solution, which Kirkman acknowledges, is just having MORE GAY CHARACTERS, and MORE DIVERSE CHARACTERS in general. You just get better stories that way. Thanks for the link! In retrospect, what made everything worse was Joe Quesada pointing to Freedom Ring as an example of a gay Marvel superhero two weeks before the character’s death. It a) made a character who happened to be gay into a GAY character, and b) when his brutal, shocking death did occur, the message inferred was “and THIS is how Marvel treats GAY characters.”

And again, the solution, which Kirkman acknowledges, is just having MORE GAY CHARACTERS, and MORE DIVERSE CHARACTERS in general. You just get better stories that way.

Thanks for the link!

]]> By: Tuckenie http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/10/19/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-9/comment-page-1/#comment-24572 Tuckenie Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:21:00 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/10/19/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-9/#comment-24572 Really this is so sad. Isn't it just as close minded to say that you CAN'T kill off a character because they're gay/female/a minority. Seriously this PC crap is just bringing down the culture of our country. How about looking at the fact that a gay character was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice and commending the nobility it shows? Really this is so sad. Isn’t it just as close minded to say that you CAN’T kill off a character because they’re gay/female/a minority. Seriously this PC crap is just bringing down the culture of our country. How about looking at the fact that a gay character was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice and commending the nobility it shows?

]]> By: Joe Lawler http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/10/19/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-9/comment-page-1/#comment-24548 Joe Lawler Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:20:09 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/10/19/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-9/#comment-24548 So gay people are quitters? So gay people are quitters?

]]> By: Dan Coyle http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/10/19/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-9/comment-page-1/#comment-24535 Dan Coyle Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:03:32 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/10/19/pointcounterpoint-in-the-blogosphere-9/#comment-24535 Hmmmm. Kirkman didn't have to kill Freedom Ring off. He could have just had him quit. Hmmmm.

Kirkman didn’t have to kill Freedom Ring off. He could have just had him quit.

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