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Social Shift on the Superhero Scene

October 18th, 2006
Author Lisa Fortuner

Scipio’s noticed a slow change in DC Comics:

Back in the day, Carter Hall was an archeologically-oriented sophisticate; Ted Grant was a medical student, then a wealthy celebrity. Nowadays, Carter is some sort of barely restrained savage and Ted Grant is some beer-swilling Wolverine-lite, and a reader can only assume that criminals can literally smell either one of them from a block away.

Was it the younger generation’s fault? Nowadays, people are permitted to call themselves college graduates who should be secretaries and chaffeurs, and, in any previous decade, would have been. But, Roy and Dick, wards of millionaires, never went to college? Donna Troy? Wally West? Kyle Rayner? Slackers, hanging out at coffee shops, instead of hitting the books. And don’t get me STARTED on Jack Knight… The main next generation hero I’m certain went to college? Helena Bertinelli — gangster’s daughter.

Theories and debate as to why, and what it matters in the full post and comment thread.

11 Responses to “Social Shift on the Superhero Scene”
  1. Adam Says:

    “Nowadays, people are permitted to call themselves college graduates who should be secretaries and chaffeurs, and, in any previous decade, would have been.”

    I thought that graduating from college was what “permitted” you to call yourself a college graduate. And what does he mean by “should” be secrataries and chauffeurs? Is this one of those ironic internet things that I never get?

  2. Rob S. Says:

    That’s what I thought too, at first. That “college graduate” statement is so arch it seems meant to be satirical. But apparently he means it.

    Expressed another way, I can see his point (although I can see the flipside, too; I like that there are heroes that are car mechanics!). But he stated his position so condescendingly that it’s no wonder his comments thread is going bugnutty.

  3. Lisa Fortuner Says:

    That’s nothing. You should see the post where he tried to tackle “Why women aren’t believable as villains.” That was an insane comment thread.

  4. Marionette Says:

    It’s got so it’s near impossible to tell when he’s having a laugh and when he actually believes what he’s saying. The only difference seems to be how aggressive he gets in the comment thread towards anyone who disagrees with him.

  5. Kyle Cowstar Says:

    This could have been written more elequently.

  6. Spencer Carnage Says:

    When Scipio comments, he focuses on only those who outright insult him, letting them know who unwelcome they are, and those who agree him, to further prove his point. Any dissenting opinions that try to intelligently discuss the subject at hand, like Cole Odell is doing so well in the comments, are pretty much ignored. Its a shame, because Scipio is such a smart guy and the best he do is get snippy.

  7. Cole Moore Odell Says:

    Thanks, Spencer. I should say that 9 times out of 10, I love me the Absorbascon. This is the other one.

  8. Adam Says:

    Yes, Cole, good work! I myself had planned to comment, but instead I elected to sit around in my Wal-Mart underwear, drink beer, and push berries up my nose.

  9. Nimbus Says:

    There also seems to be general confusion between class, wealth and education. It’s as if Scipio’s living in the past thinking that wealth and education equate to upper classness (and vice versa). Nowadays class has very little to do with a persons education and/or wealth.

  10. Matthew E Says:

    I put this together in case anybody wants to read more stuff like this. Did I miss any?

  11. Scipio Says:

    “It’s got so it’s near impossible to tell when he’s having a laugh and when he actually believes what he’s saying.”

    Good.

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