Comments on: True fans try to help their heroes… http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/ The Blog@ Team and prominent comics personalities share what’s on their minds. Sat, 18 May 2013 08:20:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: tm http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-11317 tm Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:37:10 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-11317 Exactly what stories can't they tell? I've never heard Quesada tell that. Only stories about dating, I guess. They've done the storyline about Spidey dating the Black Cat oh about 20 years ago, so that's not exactly new. I can't think of anything else they can't do. Exactly what stories can’t they tell? I’ve never heard Quesada tell that. Only stories about dating, I guess. They’ve done the storyline about Spidey dating the Black Cat oh about 20 years ago, so that’s not exactly new. I can’t think of anything else they can’t do.

]]> By: R. Nav http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-11128 R. Nav Fri, 11 Aug 2006 20:05:55 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-11128 Yea, it's just not a proper Spider-Man story if there isn't a Gwen Stacy to kill off! Yea, it’s just not a proper Spider-Man story if there isn’t a Gwen Stacy to kill off!

]]> By: SpiderTeo http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-11065 SpiderTeo Fri, 11 Aug 2006 06:34:26 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-11065 Damn, are they going to bring Gwen Stacy in there as well? No Spidey romance is complete without some Gwen sprinkled in! Damn, are they going to bring Gwen Stacy in there as well? No Spidey romance is complete without some Gwen sprinkled in!

]]> By: killerseamonkey http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-11050 killerseamonkey Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:44:23 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-11050 Good luck with THAT. Good luck with THAT.

]]> By: Yam http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-11004 Yam Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:43:14 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-11004 This "oh yeah, you can't tell as many stories with him unmasked" thing? yeah, its bull. What stories can't you tell exactly? The exact same stories that we've been telling for the past 30 years. If anything, the unmasking opens up the door for many MORE, NEW stories. This “oh yeah, you can’t tell as many stories with him unmasked” thing? yeah, its bull. What stories can’t you tell exactly? The exact same stories that we’ve been telling for the past 30 years. If anything, the unmasking opens up the door for many MORE, NEW stories.

]]> By: becken http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10994 becken Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:12:20 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10994 idea for end of marriage: some magical/cosmic entity comes to MJ & tells her that peter is destined to die & the only way to save him is to become a Spectre/dr fate (magical keeper of order or something), but if she becomes that everybody will have to forget about her ever existing. so she sacrifices her life with him for his life idea for end of marriage: some magical/cosmic entity comes to MJ & tells her that peter is destined to die & the only way to save him is to become a Spectre/dr fate (magical keeper of order or something), but if she becomes that everybody will have to forget about her ever existing. so she sacrifices her life with him for his life

]]> By: Mithel http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10943 Mithel Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:26:58 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10943 Hasn't the latest talk at Marvel concerning Doc Strange been all about how they don't want him to be Marvel's Deus Ex Machina plot device anymore? They're putting him on a superteam, giving him a new mini(Which I'm very excited about, by the by), but this idea just seems like a reverse in direction before they've even changed anything. I care very little for Spider-Man(Excepting his rogue's gallery), but don't mess with the Doctor. Hasn’t the latest talk at Marvel concerning Doc Strange been all about how they don’t want him to be Marvel’s Deus Ex Machina plot device anymore?

They’re putting him on a superteam, giving him a new mini(Which I’m very excited about, by the by), but this idea just seems like a reverse in direction before they’ve even changed anything.

I care very little for Spider-Man(Excepting his rogue’s gallery), but don’t mess with the Doctor.

]]> By: killerseamonkey http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10915 killerseamonkey Thu, 10 Aug 2006 00:58:24 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10915 I can see the advantages to having Spider-man back closer to the original vision and the movie version. Young, struggling hero is what he is. Marriage is something that can work only for certian superheroes, like the patriarchal Superman, but I agree that Peter makes more sense single. And since Marvel is going to HAVE to do something about Spidey's identity crisis they might as well do a fix on his marriage too. I don't think they should have certain villains remember the "time before" though. Too convoluted. Make a fresh start tabula rasa. I can see the advantages to having Spider-man back closer to the original vision and the movie version. Young, struggling hero is what he is. Marriage is something that can work only for certian superheroes, like the patriarchal Superman, but I agree that Peter makes more sense single. And since Marvel is going to HAVE to do something about Spidey’s identity crisis they might as well do a fix on his marriage too. I don’t think they should have certain villains remember the “time before” though. Too convoluted. Make a fresh start tabula rasa.

]]> By: Adam http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10910 Adam Thu, 10 Aug 2006 00:20:18 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10910 Here's a link to a summary of the issue I was talking about: http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/spiderman_amazing/504.html Here’s a link to a summary of the issue I was talking about:
http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/spiderman_amazing/504.html

]]> By: Adam http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10909 Adam Thu, 10 Aug 2006 00:19:05 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10909 I think that something like this is already being set up with the "get out of jail free" token Loki gave Spidey in ASM #504. Have they dealt with that yet? I don't keep up with the title regularly. I think that something like this is already being set up with the “get out of jail free” token Loki gave Spidey in ASM #504. Have they dealt with that yet? I don’t keep up with the title regularly.

]]> By: JR http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10870 JR Wed, 09 Aug 2006 20:45:55 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10870 When I first brought up the Dr. Strange angle (on the CBR forums and the old Comics Should Be Good site) I was joking, and I even admitted to adapting it from an unused Superman proposal. I find it rather amusing how it's been picked up and run with in the manner it has. When I first brought up the Dr. Strange angle (on the CBR forums and the old Comics Should Be Good site) I was joking, and I even admitted to adapting it from an unused Superman proposal. I find it rather amusing how it’s been picked up and run with in the manner it has.

]]> By: jake saint http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10834 jake saint Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:39:23 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10834 It would've been great if everyone else had had the same response to Peter's revelation as Deb Whitman did: (not a real quotation, but close) "oh, hahaha, thank you Peter. You look ridiculous. You have made me realize that you could not be Spider-man and therefore I am not a nutjob." "er... yes, yes, you are a nutjob, Deb." I still say Martha Connors is the only gal for Websy. It would’ve been great if everyone else had had the same response to Peter’s revelation as Deb Whitman did:
(not a real quotation, but close)
“oh, hahaha, thank you Peter. You look ridiculous. You have made me realize that you could not be Spider-man and therefore I am not a nutjob.”
“er… yes, yes, you are a nutjob, Deb.”

I still say Martha Connors is the only gal for Websy.

]]> By: Homero http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10832 Homero Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:37:03 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10832 You know, I thought the time is ripe for Debra to make her return in some capacity or another. Peter needs more supporting characters. You know, I thought the time is ripe for Debra to make her return in some capacity or another. Peter needs more supporting characters.

]]> By: Graeme McMillan http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10828 Graeme McMillan Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:18:38 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10828 I've never heard of Debra Whitman, but now I feel as if I'm missing out. Superhot, crazy *and* a nerd? I’ve never heard of Debra Whitman, but now I feel as if I’m missing out. Superhot, crazy *and* a nerd?

]]> By: Scott Iskow http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10827 Scott Iskow Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:18:12 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10827 Ya know, people can have lives outside of their marriage. It may not be as suspenseful as dating, but there are always pressures exerting themselves from one angle or another. And if the marriage is so dull, just give it less "screen time" and focus on something else. Ya don't have to erase the thing. Ya know, people can have lives outside of their marriage. It may not be as suspenseful as dating, but there are always pressures exerting themselves from one angle or another. And if the marriage is so dull, just give it less “screen time” and focus on something else. Ya don’t have to erase the thing.

]]> By: Tom Spurgeon http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10825 Tom Spurgeon Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:17:28 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10825 If any of this somehow means the return of superhot crazy nerd Debra Whitman, I'm on board. If any of this somehow means the return of superhot crazy nerd Debra Whitman, I’m on board.

]]> By: Thacher E. Cleveland http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10822 Thacher E. Cleveland Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:06:21 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10822 I am really sick of the whole "Peter has to be single, because you cant tell all the stories you can with a married Spider-Man." Really, and you can tell all the stories you can with Spidey`s ID all over the place? It doesn`t make any sense, and something this divisive should just be left as is rather than make more problems later down the road. I am really sick of the whole “Peter has to be single, because you cant tell all the stories you can with a married Spider-Man.” Really, and you can tell all the stories you can with Spidey`s ID all over the place? It doesn`t make any sense, and something this divisive should just be left as is rather than make more problems later down the road.

]]> By: Homero http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10819 Homero Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:44:17 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10819 I like Parker and MJ married. Because, you know, thats what people do. Get married. Peter is the average Joe of the 616. Thats why people love him. Instead of focusing on this single aspect of two multifacted characters, why not focus how heroics effect their marrige? Surly its not as easy as MJ makes it looks at times. Every marriage has its issues, and The City can easisy be Peters 'other woman' that makes MJ jeleous. Of course she would be conflicted because she would know that he feels responsible for protecting people, but that sometimes, she would just want him to stay home sometimes. Conflict. Its not that hard. I like Parker and MJ married. Because, you know, thats what people do. Get married. Peter is the average Joe of the 616. Thats why people love him.
Instead of focusing on this single aspect of two multifacted characters, why not focus how heroics effect their marrige? Surly its not as easy as MJ makes it looks at times. Every marriage has its issues, and The City can easisy be Peters ‘other woman’ that makes MJ jeleous. Of course she would be conflicted because she would know that he feels responsible for protecting people, but that sometimes, she would just want him to stay home sometimes.
Conflict. Its not that hard.

]]> By: James W. Powell http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10817 James W. Powell Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:39:15 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10817 It'd be even better if Parker forgot who Spider-Man was, too. Imagine the fun of him relearning his powers. It’d be even better if Parker forgot who Spider-Man was, too. Imagine the fun of him relearning his powers.

]]> By: Matthew E http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10816 Matthew E Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:34:46 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10816 Couldn't Superboy-Prime just punch something? Couldn’t Superboy-Prime just punch something?

]]> By: Scott King http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10815 Scott King Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:29:06 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10815 I grew up with them married. Since I did I don't really see what the big deal is. I think the whole mess should just be left alone. I grew up with them married. Since I did I don’t really see what the big deal is. I think the whole mess should just be left alone.

]]> By: Dean+ http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10811 Dean+ Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:13:32 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10811 As if comics continuity wasn't complicated enough. I really don't want to ever say, "Remember when Peter was married to MJ before Doc Strange reset the universe?" P.S. For good Spidey stories call Spidey Loves MJ. As if comics continuity wasn’t complicated enough. I really don’t want to ever say, “Remember when Peter was married to MJ before Doc Strange reset the universe?”

P.S. For good Spidey stories call Spidey Loves MJ.

]]> By: Ignacio Alcuri http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-10807 Ignacio Alcuri Wed, 09 Aug 2006 15:50:06 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/08/09/true-fans-try-to-help-their-heroes/#comment-10807 Come on... it's very similar to what DC did with Wally West after Flash #200. The Spectre (Hal Jordan at that time) made everyone forget that Wally West was Flash. Even Wally forgot it. Come on… it’s very similar to what DC did with Wally West after Flash #200. The Spectre (Hal Jordan at that time) made everyone forget that Wally West was Flash. Even Wally forgot it.

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