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	<title>Comments on: Byrne! Dixon! Together, they can rule the galaxy!</title>
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		<title>By: BarryDubya</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/07/13/byrne-dixon-together-they-can-rule-the-galaxy/comment-page-1/#comment-5310</link>
		<dc:creator>BarryDubya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 03:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;

I&#039;m sure he also wouldn&#039;t give back the millions he claims he made way back when he was a &quot;star&quot;.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m sure he also wouldn&#8217;t give back the millions he claims he made way back when he was a &#8220;star&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikolai Fomich</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/07/13/byrne-dixon-together-they-can-rule-the-galaxy/comment-page-1/#comment-4959</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikolai Fomich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 04:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted give a major shout out to Waid and Kitson for a great, long FF run and Rucka and co. for the highly underrated gotham central (40 issues of gotham goodness, 99% w/o the caped crusader).

However, i stick to the idea that comics today are written in stints, until the next big job (or bigger paycheck) comes.

That said, I&#039;m far to young to know a world without an actual comic shop and I&#039;m used to these short stints as the norm of comic books. 

But if the essentials and vissionaries tpbs have shown me anything, it&#039;s what can really be made of comics as serials, adventures which have the same tone for a great amount of time and are not so much plagued with &#039;re-boots&#039;. Ugh.

PS
I too wrote for fan fic for awhile, with 9 issues of Flash, 1 of Aquaman, and 4 for Green Arrow, though i had plotted each much farther. fan-fic is fun. try it! 
http://legendsofdc.proboards38.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted give a major shout out to Waid and Kitson for a great, long FF run and Rucka and co. for the highly underrated gotham central (40 issues of gotham goodness, 99% w/o the caped crusader).</p>
<p>However, i stick to the idea that comics today are written in stints, until the next big job (or bigger paycheck) comes.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m far to young to know a world without an actual comic shop and I&#8217;m used to these short stints as the norm of comic books. </p>
<p>But if the essentials and vissionaries tpbs have shown me anything, it&#8217;s what can really be made of comics as serials, adventures which have the same tone for a great amount of time and are not so much plagued with &#8216;re-boots&#8217;. Ugh.</p>
<p>PS<br />
I too wrote for fan fic for awhile, with 9 issues of Flash, 1 of Aquaman, and 4 for Green Arrow, though i had plotted each much farther. fan-fic is fun. try it!<br />
<a href="http://legendsofdc.proboards38.com/" rel="nofollow">http://legendsofdc.proboards38.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: J Davis</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/07/13/byrne-dixon-together-they-can-rule-the-galaxy/comment-page-1/#comment-4849</link>
		<dc:creator>J Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Byrne&#039;s whining about the comics industry&#039;s &quot;star system&quot; is pretty ironic when you consider how much drek he&#039;s published in the last twenty years.  He sure didn&#039;t complain about the perks when he was a &quot;star.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Byrne&#8217;s whining about the comics industry&#8217;s &#8220;star system&#8221; is pretty ironic when you consider how much drek he&#8217;s published in the last twenty years.  He sure didn&#8217;t complain about the perks when he was a &#8220;star.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Mayhak</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/07/13/byrne-dixon-together-they-can-rule-the-galaxy/comment-page-1/#comment-4505</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan Mayhak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 07:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell me about it.  Just brainstorming ideas for what I&#039;d do with JLA (since I like John Stewart and J&#039;onn) led me to 24 issues worth of material...  most of which is worked out and just needs to be finallized and typed up.  I&#039;d like to run a fan fic concurrent with the new JLoA (as a protest/resume), but time will tell if I can get it out on schedule ;)

On the note of the DSM a lot of this happened when I was in diapers to training wheels, but I will say the current &quot;Star-chasing&quot; pushes me to buy mini-series and TpB if I want a story.  Buying monthly means I want to be led through a characters life by (at tops) 4 guys in 10-15 years.  

Whedon and Cassady may fall under that &quot;star&quot; mentality, but at the end of Astonishing X-men I&#039;ll have 24 issues (and an annual) that all look, feel, and sound the same.  On the flip side I&#039;ll own 5 issues of Wonder Woman, 8 of Supes (U,U,&amp;A), JLA Classified 1-9, etc.  I will say pre-&quot;event meltdown&quot; Marvel had one creative team on almost all their books... for years (not years in the decade sence, but a good 3 years+ I believe).  DC was similar with many (Flash(Waid, then Geoff), Nightwing(Dixon), a few others).  Now one of the only issue-chewers is Winick... whose payoffs I&#039;ve come to dislike.

Knowing that Gotham Knights (for example) could have been gold, but was killed by events?/editing?/AJ? really makes me leary to get a book about a big name character if another book with a &quot;bigger&quot; name is on that same character...  which in a round about way leads me back to Detective being about all the DCU detectives and not just Batman.  Ralph, Dick, Vic, etc and then have batman encompass 1 four-part arc a year.  If we&#039;re going this &quot;star-chasing&quot; route &amp; Put out 2-3 bat books and a slew of mini-series about batman, then wittle it down and avoid garbage like War &quot;name here&quot; and most of &#039;Batman&#039; this side of Hush (and some might include Hush...).  If the good stories are being published in elseworld style minis that have poor sales and the big names are shoveling garbage to fans they know will buy it because its batman issue #---, then something is wrong.  I will say Batman could be on an upswing creatively, but DC (and Marvel with Spiderman/X-men) spread the stories too thin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me about it.  Just brainstorming ideas for what I&#8217;d do with JLA (since I like John Stewart and J&#8217;onn) led me to 24 issues worth of material&#8230;  most of which is worked out and just needs to be finallized and typed up.  I&#8217;d like to run a fan fic concurrent with the new JLoA (as a protest/resume), but time will tell if I can get it out on schedule <img src='http://blog.newsarama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>On the note of the DSM a lot of this happened when I was in diapers to training wheels, but I will say the current &#8220;Star-chasing&#8221; pushes me to buy mini-series and TpB if I want a story.  Buying monthly means I want to be led through a characters life by (at tops) 4 guys in 10-15 years.  </p>
<p>Whedon and Cassady may fall under that &#8220;star&#8221; mentality, but at the end of Astonishing X-men I&#8217;ll have 24 issues (and an annual) that all look, feel, and sound the same.  On the flip side I&#8217;ll own 5 issues of Wonder Woman, 8 of Supes (U,U,&amp;A), JLA Classified 1-9, etc.  I will say pre-&#8221;event meltdown&#8221; Marvel had one creative team on almost all their books&#8230; for years (not years in the decade sence, but a good 3 years+ I believe).  DC was similar with many (Flash(Waid, then Geoff), Nightwing(Dixon), a few others).  Now one of the only issue-chewers is Winick&#8230; whose payoffs I&#8217;ve come to dislike.</p>
<p>Knowing that Gotham Knights (for example) could have been gold, but was killed by events?/editing?/AJ? really makes me leary to get a book about a big name character if another book with a &#8220;bigger&#8221; name is on that same character&#8230;  which in a round about way leads me back to Detective being about all the DCU detectives and not just Batman.  Ralph, Dick, Vic, etc and then have batman encompass 1 four-part arc a year.  If we&#8217;re going this &#8220;star-chasing&#8221; route &amp; Put out 2-3 bat books and a slew of mini-series about batman, then wittle it down and avoid garbage like War &#8220;name here&#8221; and most of &#8216;Batman&#8217; this side of Hush (and some might include Hush&#8230;).  If the good stories are being published in elseworld style minis that have poor sales and the big names are shoveling garbage to fans they know will buy it because its batman issue #&#8212;, then something is wrong.  I will say Batman could be on an upswing creatively, but DC (and Marvel with Spiderman/X-men) spread the stories too thin.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikolai Fomich</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/07/13/byrne-dixon-together-they-can-rule-the-galaxy/comment-page-1/#comment-4460</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikolai Fomich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 05:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Byrne has a &#039;spider-sense&#039;? That sure didn&#039;t help him out with Joe Queseda.

But seriously-
I despise the three- four- issue stints. The only thing that comes close to reminding me of runs like Simonson&#039;s Thor, David&#039;s Hulk, and Lee and Ditko on Dr. Strange was Geoff Johns on The Flash and, to a lesser extent, Millar and Hitch on Ultimates. Today, a 15 issue run would be considered &#039;long&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Byrne has a &#8216;spider-sense&#8217;? That sure didn&#8217;t help him out with Joe Queseda.</p>
<p>But seriously-<br />
I despise the three- four- issue stints. The only thing that comes close to reminding me of runs like Simonson&#8217;s Thor, David&#8217;s Hulk, and Lee and Ditko on Dr. Strange was Geoff Johns on The Flash and, to a lesser extent, Millar and Hitch on Ultimates. Today, a 15 issue run would be considered &#8216;long&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Coville</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/07/13/byrne-dixon-together-they-can-rule-the-galaxy/comment-page-1/#comment-3790</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Coville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 21:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect Peter David and Kurt Busiek would be the people to talk to about this. They were working for Marvel in the 80s dealing with DM retailers. 

I can see retailers complaining if the newsstands got the books *before* the DM did, or got books the DM did not. And from what I understand, some newsstand retailers did complain about the DM for the same reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect Peter David and Kurt Busiek would be the people to talk to about this. They were working for Marvel in the 80s dealing with DM retailers. </p>
<p>I can see retailers complaining if the newsstands got the books *before* the DM did, or got books the DM did not. And from what I understand, some newsstand retailers did complain about the DM for the same reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Direct Market didn&#039;t exist, is it not possible that, instead of retreating to the DM when newsstand sales started going south, the comics publishers might have found another solution and put out product that the newsstand market wanted? E.g. comics with high page counts and cover prices? We might then have ended up with a comics market that looked a lot more like the Japanese market. (Or alternately gone off the the European direction.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Direct Market didn&#8217;t exist, is it not possible that, instead of retreating to the DM when newsstand sales started going south, the comics publishers might have found another solution and put out product that the newsstand market wanted? E.g. comics with high page counts and cover prices? We might then have ended up with a comics market that looked a lot more like the Japanese market. (Or alternately gone off the the European direction.)</p>
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		<title>By: Murray Clack</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2006/07/13/byrne-dixon-together-they-can-rule-the-galaxy/comment-page-1/#comment-3747</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray Clack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[i]&quot;[W]hat baffles me is that these “hot” talents are given assignments based on hype rather than performance. &quot;[/i]

Aint that the truth!  Has anyone seen the variant cover to the new &quot;Justice League of America&quot; #1 by J Scott Campbell?  Grab your barf bag!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[i]&#8220;[W]hat baffles me is that these “hot” talents are given assignments based on hype rather than performance. &#8220;[/i]</p>
<p>Aint that the truth!  Has anyone seen the variant cover to the new &#8220;Justice League of America&#8221; #1 by J Scott Campbell?  Grab your barf bag!</p>
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		<title>By: Lyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 00:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The trouble began when the publishers began to listen to the retailers and respond to their complaints that newsstand and bookstore sales were “unfair competition” for them.&lt;/i&gt;

I had never head of such a thing before, while I wouldn&#039;t be surprised that there were retailers who saw the newsstand and bookstores as unfair competition (to customers they felt entitled to get) but did publishers actually listen and pull out of a market where they got good sales because of the complaints of short-sighted retailers? Baffling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The trouble began when the publishers began to listen to the retailers and respond to their complaints that newsstand and bookstore sales were “unfair competition” for them.</i></p>
<p>I had never head of such a thing before, while I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised that there were retailers who saw the newsstand and bookstores as unfair competition (to customers they felt entitled to get) but did publishers actually listen and pull out of a market where they got good sales because of the complaints of short-sighted retailers? Baffling.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 23:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with Byrne and Dixon on the DM, but agree on the Star System. 
Why do all my favorite characters have to be written by the same four or five guys?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with Byrne and Dixon on the DM, but agree on the Star System.<br />
Why do all my favorite characters have to be written by the same four or five guys?</p>
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		<title>By: BarryDubya</title>
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		<dc:creator>BarryDubya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 21:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must have read my mind - I was just lamenting the loss of Fanboy Rampage after reading this particularly amusing thread and wishing I had a place to comment on it with all the snark I could muster. Lo and behold, we have snark!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must have read my mind &#8211; I was just lamenting the loss of Fanboy Rampage after reading this particularly amusing thread and wishing I had a place to comment on it with all the snark I could muster. Lo and behold, we have snark!</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk Deppey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirk Deppey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both men miss the point: The comics industry didn&#039;t &quot;abandon&quot; the newsstands for the Direct Market, it retreated there after newsstand distributors decided that comic books weren&#039;t paying for the rackspace they took up and dropped them. Without the DM Marvel and DC likely wouldn&#039;t exist today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both men miss the point: The comics industry didn&#8217;t &#8220;abandon&#8221; the newsstands for the Direct Market, it retreated there after newsstand distributors decided that comic books weren&#8217;t paying for the rackspace they took up and dropped them. Without the DM Marvel and DC likely wouldn&#8217;t exist today.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blackshore</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Blackshore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, &quot;epithet,&quot; not &quot;epiphet.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, &#8220;epithet,&#8221; not &#8220;epiphet.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David Blackshore</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Blackshore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is &quot;nitch&quot; some obscure racial/sexual epiphet, or does John Byrne not know how to spell &quot;niche&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is &#8220;nitch&#8221; some obscure racial/sexual epiphet, or does John Byrne not know how to spell &#8220;niche&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Treacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Treacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;People who, as Frank Miller once put it, “do three issues and want a parade.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As opposed to doing three issues and getting Robin out of the Batmobile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>People who, as Frank Miller once put it, “do three issues and want a parade.”</p></blockquote>
<p>As opposed to doing three issues and getting Robin out of the Batmobile.</p>
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